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Interest Payments on the Debt Outpace Most Countries' GDPs

The Economy Policy Rapid Response BlogDecember 3, 2025 By Brittany Madni
Our national debt is over $38.4 trillion. Every dollar of deficit spending is a tax on future generations, who will have to pay for today’s irresponsible decisions by policymakers.

Interest Spending Grows Beyond Reason

As our national debt grows, so do the mandatory interest payments the country must make to service that debt. These interest payments have exploded beyond what the country spends on other major categories, including defense and major health programs. The fiscal year (FY) 2024 spending on interest was $1.13 trillion – overtaking total actual FY 2024 defense spending of $954 billion, actual FY 2024 Medicaid spending of $618 billion, and actual FY 2024 Medicare spending of $1.09 trillion. The U.S. Department of the Treasury pegs fiscal year 2025 interest payments at $1.22 trillion. This equates to $9,200 per household. Our interest payments comprised 13% of total outlays in FY 2024. As autopilot spending eats up more of the budget year after year, the interest payment portion also increases, while the discretionary portion – what Congress actually votes on annually – shrinks. And the cost of our debt is rising exponentially as federal spending continues to spiral out of control.

U.S. Spends More on Interest than Most Countries’ Entire GDPs

To provide perspective, the majority of countries on the planet are smaller than just our interest payments. There are only 16 countries in the world – other than the United States itself – with gross domestic products (GDPs) greater than our interest payments. We are forcing future generations to cover the interest on our borrowing to such a degree that the payments are essentially equal to the size of Saudi Arabia’s entire economy. This is unsustainable. Slide 1 Copy 2 (1)

Source: IMF data combined with author’s analysis.

What Congress Can Do

Our debt is out of control because our spending is beyond reason. The ballooning interest is just one very expensive symptom. Congress would be wise to adjust spending down and exert more fiscal restraint in upcoming budget and appropriations legislation. Additionally, Congress should use a second reconciliation package to reduce the deficit by making meaningful reforms to autopilot programs, which account for 60% (73% when including interest payments) of the federal budget.  

Author

Brittany A. Madni

Brittany A. Madni

Executive Vice President

Brittany A. Madni is the Executive Vice President of the Economic Policy Innovation Center (EPIC). She served as a Congressional aide and trusted senior advisor for a decade on Capitol Hill, developing a nuanced understanding of the legislative process with an emphasis on budget and appropriations strategy. Prior to joining EPIC, Madni was Deputy Chief of Staff and Legislative Director for Congresswoman Ashley Hinson (R-IA). Madni helped Rep. Hinson start her office in 2021, where she was instrumental in developing the Congresswoman’s policy priorities and spearheading her work on the House Appropriations Committee. Before serving with Rep. Hinson, Madni served as a senior policy advisor at the U.S. House Budget Committee under Congressman Steve Womack (R-AR) and Congressman Diane Black (R-TN). There, she managed the health and tax policy functions, as well as oversight of the Congressional Budget Office. During her tenure on the Committee, she played a critical role in developing the 2017 Republican health reform bill, along with several enacted federal budgets. Madni also served as first Legislative Director for Congressman Troy Balderson (R-OH), where she helped shape the then-freshman Congressman’s policy platforms and built his legislative team. She began her time as Congressional staff working for Congressman Tom McClintock (R-CA), where she handled budget and health care policy, among other issues. Madni’s first jobs in Washington were a series of internships on Congressional committees, where she assisted with oversight of the administration. Madni holds an M.P.S. in legislative affairs from The George Washington University’s Graduate School of Political Management and a B.A. in English and political science from Boston College. Originally from Florida, she now lives in Virginia with her husband, their son, and their dog, Pepper.

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